You need to have a plan in case of an emergency and typically you need some money to go with that plan: your Emergency Funds. 

First, let’s define Emergency: something which happens unexpectedly, which you could not easily predict would occur at this moment. Examples include losing a job, having a severe accident or having to take care of a loved one. As you can tell, these mostly include losing or temporarily leaving your job, which means no income for some period of time.

Emergencies are not the fridge breaking down, car maintenance or a new roof. All of those you can easily predict will happen in the future and you need to plan and budget for those separately. 

So, what to think about in terms of this emergency fund?

  • Typically it should be 3-6 months of required expenses, in case you lose a job.
  • You can increase or decrease that depending on job stability, income stability and your employability.
  • This fund should be mostly in cash. Cash is King.
  • If your brokerage portfolio is large enough, you can have this money invested as part of your overall portfolio.

Mostly you need a plan for when the sh*t hits the fan. Make sure you are prepared.

Mike: [:Julie: [:Mike: [:

How are you

Julie: [:Mike: [:Julie: [:Mike: [:Julie: [:Mike: [:Julie: [:Mike: [:

Now, the first thing, when I think about emergency funds is this is for a true emergency and unexpected. Expense. This is not for things that we know are going to happen. All right. So some things are irregular, but we still know they're going to happen. So maintenance on some of your appliances.

Something's going to break. Okay. We don't know when, but we know there's upkeep on the house that needs to happen even so far as a new roof. Super expensive. But, in 30 years or however old your roof is, you're going to need a new one. You can budget and plan for those types of things.

So the emergency funds are really for the unexpected, which could be a loss of a job. That's the big one. Hey, what if I lose my job and I don't have income for awhile. Okay. That's unexpected. It could be health emergency. Maybe you're in an accident. You can't work for a little bit. Maybe a family member is going through something you got to so take some time off work that you were not expecting.

So they mostly work related, but treat the emergency fund as a true emergency. The other stuff, the home upkeep, the roof, you're going to know you're going to need this and that have a budget for those. All right. So those are in the budget. So that's the first starting point.

Julie: [:Mike: [:

So that's the first thing. and so not all the articles will talk about that, but I want this to be a true emergency fund. I don't ever want you to tap this. It's a small probability that you're going to tap this money. Everything else is in the budget. It's in the plan. So how do we get to how much it should be? Should it be three months of expenses, six months of expenses. Let's get a little more accurate on how much it should be.

Julie: [:Mike: [:

If your job, this is really around job loss, or having to take a break from your job. So if your job is very stable, It's not really tied to the economy so much, there's always demand for your job Or not maybe this particular job, but there's, and for your field, you can easily get another job.

Recruiters are always calling you then you can go down to zero one month, two months, you know that you could pick up another, very unlikely you lose your job. And even if you do, you could pick up another job very easily. All right. So then I would say, look, have one month, maybe two.

of expenses. If however, your job is very unstable, it's very much tied to the economy or you're an entrepreneur.

You never know what's going to happen next. That's right. And then the other thing is maybe your salary really jumps around. So a lot of sales positions would be in that category.

You're not really sure you get a year end bonus. You're not sure what month to month. So those you might want to get to more of that stuff. Of savings of expenses. All right. So now we've dialed in. Okay. Get a little more accurate around where you need to be for your situation. Now, what are those expenses?

The expenses are the required expenses that you have to live on.

Julie: [:


Mike: [:

And really dial it back to what you actually have to spend. And those are your expenses, monthly expenses times the number of months that's the total dollars you're looking at.

Julie: [:Mike: [:

And then yeah, tuition bills. I can't really think of anything else off the

Julie: [:Mike: [:Julie: [:


it's something you should include in there.

Mike: [:

As a non discretion.

Expenses now next, where are we going to keep this money? Julie? She just

Julie: [:Mike: [:

Yeah. Put those couple thousand dollars under the mattress.

Julie: [:

And I didn't want to be in a place where I had no access to my money.

Mike: [:Julie: [:Mike: [:Julie: [:Mike: [:

It could be on a brokerage account in your money market account. It could even be in stocks and bonds. I'll talk about that in a minute. You could sell those and get them back within three days. And so that money is there. It could be in CDs. Now, CDs are locked up get a six month CD or one year or two years, but you can always get the money back out.

You just pay a small Penalty So even if you had a one year CD to get a little more interest, if you really need that money, you can get it back out. Now, remember that I've defined the emergency fund, not for the appliance and the home upkeep and the other stuff. It's a true emergency. I hope you never have to tap this so therefore we can have it invested a little. I'm going to say, quote, unquote riskier. Okay. We want to invest it for the future a little bit more because we hope to never have to use it. So I really don't want that money sitting there in cash. So if you said, geez, I'm living a pretty decent lifestyle. Maybe my expenses are five, 8,000 a month and I need three or four months, you know, 30 or $40,000.

You might want to have available. That's quite a lot of money that we don't want sitting just in a savings or checking account. For the next 20, 30 years, cause you were hoping to never ever use it. All right. So we can have it in those kinds of places. The one area I will really recommend is a Roth.

IRA is a great place for storing this money. And the reason the Roth IRA is great is because we hope to never have to tap it so it can stay in there forever and we could invest it and talk about that in a second. But also you can take back out your contributions at any time from the Roth IRA. So if you do a $6,000 contribution this year, another 6,000 next year, and then you have an emergency, you could take out up to $12,000 out of that Roth IRA and spend that money

Julie: [:Mike: [:

Tax-free. And penalty-free your contributions to the Roth IRA. You can always take those back out.

Julie: [:Mike: [:

But again, this is basically an insurance, a self-insurance little policy

Julie: [:Mike: [:

So once it's in there, you want to be very careful about taking it back out.

Julie: [:Mike: [:Julie: [:Mike: [:

Yeah. Just keep it in your brokerage account. Money market accounts would be a great place to be. Now that leads me to how to, how else to invest this. Of course we want it to be liquid. We don't really want to go down in value. We can't say, look, I need 30,000. In emergency expenses and then two months from now, oh, geez, I had that emergency and now it's only worth 20,000, so that would be bad.

So we'd really don't want it going down in value that said we hope to never use it. So what you can do is invest it into a low cost index fund portfolio. And if you have the means, so this is if you have the means to that, you have good enough income and you can save every month. If the portfolio is down.

So your emergency fund drops from 30,000 to 28,000 or 25,000. Can you start building it back up quickly by continuing to invest, if you can, then that's a great way of doing that. So again, that you're invested for the future, hoping to never to use this emergency fund, but you still have the amount of funds that you.

Julie: [:

And how do you get there quickly enough that you can have peace of mind?

Mike: [:

Just get started. That's the best thing to do? What percent, if you're young or any age, really 10 to 15%. I'd love for everybody to be able to save more than 10% of their income into retirement education, emergency savings, across the board. Really push that. If you're not at 10%, just get to 10%.

If you're at 10%, try to get to 15% over time. You could do that by either just, every six months at a percent, or whenever you get a raise, once a year you get a raise, put 50% of your raise towards savings, 401ks, IRAs, emergency funds, like across. Once you get to that 15%. And if you could start there when you're young 15%, that is fantastic.

That's what you want to do. Now. Don't get discouraged by not having an emergency savings and wanting to start, just get started, whether it's 50 bucks a month, 200 bucks a month, whatever you can do and just put it away. Now, if you're in that situation, you're just getting started. I do want that in checking savings or money market, don't invest it anywhere.

You don't want it to drop in value. You don't want to get hooked on the investing side of things. Just start saving the money. That's the important part. Now at the other end of the spectrum was more I was talking about because I see a lot people that have come to me and say, wow, I've got a hundred thousand or 200,000 in cash.

Like I need to get that invested. Cause they've been saving, they've been doing a good job and grown, cause they have very good incomes. And so that's kinda where I'm saying. If you're in this situation that you have good incomes, you're saving into your retirement accounts and you've got this 30,000 or 40,000 for emergency.

You can really treat the overall portfolio as emergency funds. You don't need just 50,000 sitting in cash, having a drag on your portfolio, not making any interest you can easily afford to, even if the market's down and you lose a job, you can still sell $20,000 of stuff and, spend it on that emergency and bridge the gap until your next.

Julie: [:Mike: [:

And do you know, fond that emergency. If you have something to come up.

Julie: [:Mike: [:

but if it goes down to 10,000, then you're going to have to come up with another 20,000 very quickly to build up your emergency fund.

So, No, I wouldn't get too aggressive in that

Julie: [:Mike: [:Julie: [:Mike: [:

because you can't get the money back out without paying penalties.

Julie: [:Mike: [:

And so if you'd built up 10 that you'd have to build up, $10,000 of receipts, to be able to pull that out quickly. But you could definitely do that. The Roth IRA is just way easier. If you're saving the HSA, you should be saving first to the Roth. I would fund a Roth account ahead of the HSA only slightly ahead.

They both have great tax benefits. And so I would just say, use the Roth instead.

Julie: [:Mike: [:Julie: [:Mike: [:Julie: [:Mike: [:Julie: [:

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